opencaching.com Geocaching by the community, for the community italian charms 87744    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  TAG: placed_by Goto page Previous  1, 2          opencaching.com Forum Index -> GPX Standards View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message CoyoteRed Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 220 Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: I defer to those more knowledgable about databases. However, once a copy of something is out there, does the copyright holder have the right to withdraw it? What about a book that one owns? Can an author come and take it away? I'm thinking not. The same can be with a cache description. Yes, the author owns, but the copies that are out there are out there. I can see enforcement of no longer distributing copies, but what's is is done. We need some experts on this. CR _________________ "...been know to miss the finer points." Back to top Scout Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 235 Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:15 pm    Post subject: It all depends on the TOS. _________________ Scout http://GPSgames.org Back to top Team BMW-Biker Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 209 Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:46 am    Post subject: Quote: Remember the ownership issue. If opencaching makes claims that the caches and cache information are owned by the cachers, not the Webmaster, then you need to give them the right to delete their cache information, not just "archive" it or "hide" it. only "archive" is possible ... think for an cache that you've found and the owner wants to delete it ... Quote: It all depends on the TOS. exactly ... Oli Back to top Scout Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 235 Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:09 am    Post subject: Team BMW-Biker wrote: only "archive" is possible ... think for an cache that you've found and the owner wants to delete it ... gc.com allows cache owners to delete other players' logs. Most people seem to think that's OK. So, why shouldn't the cache owner have the right to delete his whole cache? _________________ Scout http://GPSgames.org Back to top The Diver Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Austin, Texas - Y'all Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Scout wrote: So, why shouldn't the cache owner have the right to delete his whole cache? At gc.com, the players logs are tied to the caches. What would you propose to do with the logs once the cache is deleted? Leave them dangling and pointing them to a 404 Not Found page? Delete the logs? Alan aka The Diver _________________ Terracachers - Geocaching Portal Back to top CoyoteRed Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 220 Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:38 am    Post subject: In a perfect world all logs would be "co-owned" by both the cache owner and the log author. I feel that once a cache is out it's out. The record of a visit should not go away even if the cache description does. CR _________________ "...been know to miss the finer points." Back to top Scout Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 235 Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Thanks to all for not just accepting the status quo as the way it has to be. In some ways, giving the cache owner total rights over his cache page, including the right to delete logs he doesn't like, sounds right. On the other hand, giving the cache finder total rights over his own logs, including the right to keep it from being deleted by someone else, even the cache owner, also sounds right. Right against right. The toughest of all questions. What to do. What to do. I'm stumped. ;-) _________________ Scout http://GPSgames.org Back to top CoyoteRed Joined: 18 Sep 2003 Posts: 220 Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: There myriad reasons for deleting a log. Some are false logs. Some give away too much information. Some are because you are pissed off at the finder or just the world. As solution might be a way to hide logs that give away too much while not denying the find. The encrypting of the log solution at gc.com is not really a solution, it's a bandaid. If you have a really hard puzzle you don't want people blabbing it all over the place even if it is encrypted. On the other hand, if there is a false log, you need to be able to dispute it. This is all something that needs to be discussed, but in another thread. CR _________________ "...been know to miss the finer points." 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