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CoyoteRed
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 Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:21 am Post subject: Hitchhikers |
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How do you suppose hitchhikers will handled?
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I proposed they be treated just like caches. It could be as simple as treating them as moving caches. Allows a lot of immediate reuse of all the features expected for searching, filtering, etc., on caches.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:48 am Post subject: |
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i'll cede to the will of the group on this one ... I don't play with hitchhikers much.
That said, I think the way gc does it is OK ... I don't really think of them as caches like Scout does, but they certainly could be treated that way. |
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CoyoteRed
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I think there needs to be a way to show that a HH is in a cache either in a search results, on the cache, or both.
The HH can be set up like a cache, but there needs to be a way to show that one "cache" is actually in another cache.
This is the reason for the query, how and where this will take place.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| CoyoteRed wrote: | The HH can be set up like a cache, but there needs to be a way to show that one "cache" is actually in another cache.
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Just add another field to the cache record to specify this. For traditional caches, it's blank. For hitchhiking "caches", it has another cache ID (or perhaps a value like "in transit" for hitchhikers that have been picked up and not deposited yet).
For those who like to think of hitchhikers as being something different than caches, they can have a filter set up to show them only caches with that new field filled in. Put a header on the page "Hitchhiker" and color the page a different color, and for all they'll know hitchhikers are separate from caches. Only the database programmer will know they reallyare the same thing.
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Team BMW-Biker
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think it should be possible to place the HHs not only to OC-caches like TBs on gc ... and of corse the 'traveled distance' is important ...
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CoyoteRed
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Plus, if you put on a mechanism to figure the distance traveled and maps, it can be used for HH, parasite caches, and moving caches.
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Whats a 'parasite caches' ?
Thanks for short explain,
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CoyoteRed
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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It's a cache that moves from cache to cache. Kind of like a moving cache, but must be placed in an existing cache.
There are many more forms:
Virus caches that spawn more parasites of the same kind. You find one, you much create another similar cache and put the original in a cache and the spawn in a different cache.
Mother ship caches that are large caches that contain many smaller caches. Find one and take a "child" cache and place it somewhere. (Not in another cache.)
None of the above were my idea, but would be disallowed on gc.com except for some rare instances.
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Scout
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| Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| CoyoteRed wrote: | None of the above were my idea, but would be disallowed on gc.com except for some rare instances.
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All can be handled in an opencaching database with a flexible, extensible, attribute system. Who knows what other kinds of caches players will come up with? If we hard-code what attributes a cache has, we'll just stifle creativity later.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| CoyoteRed wrote: | | The HH can be set up like a cache, but there needs to be a way to show that one "cache" is actually in another cache. |
For convinience reason only, I think. I could log it seperately and I don't need to know, there is one in a cache to go for the cache. I'd like it to be a surprise. I don't like people run to caches (even e second, third... time) just in order to be the one who can fetch the hitchhiker...
The most interesting point in setting up or support a hitchhiker IMO is to draw a map of the movements. THAT is the only feature I wouldn't like to miss. And which is totally uninteresting with a traditional cache 
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Nici, you don't want people to know where the travel bugs are? Only where they've been?
I'm not sure I can agree with that. For one thing, even if you don't have a mechanism to show TBs, people will log they are dropping TBs in their log.
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| Some people enjoy TB's as much or more than the other aspects of geocaching. They should have a full range of support. |
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CoyoteRed
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Travelertags |
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I'm checking it out.
However, it illustrates the need for an OUUA. Imagine several sites that you have to sign up and wait for a password on any given day.
The OUUA concept would streamline the process.
It also seems as though the site is a pay-for-play.
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